Notes leave out accidentals, but play back properly

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Post by bj nick » Mon May 02, 2022 5:33 pm

I get this every once in awhile: let's say it's key of D, and I enter a D#....the note will play back as D#, but in the score, it appears as a D natural. Strangely, if I start on that D (appearing as D on the page, but honoring my notation by sounding as D#) and move the note up by half steps, every note is moved up a half step.....so what would be the notes of a D Major scale, will be a D# (Eb) major scale. Tried clearing midi data, not sure what else to try. Any ideas?
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Post by N Grossingink » Mon May 02, 2022 5:51 pm

Post a small sample file showing the problem.
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Post by motet » Mon May 02, 2022 5:53 pm

If you're using a MIDI keyboard, power it off and on. Many MIDI keyboards have a transposition option.

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Post by bj nick » Tue May 03, 2022 5:52 pm

Not using MIDI keyboard. Here's the bar in question, which is Alto Sax bar 2, on the D natural (which is playing back as D#, AS INTENDED, but notation shows it as D natural.) I look forward to this being some simple thing I'm overlooking.....
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Post by N Grossingink » Tue May 03, 2022 6:16 pm

In the transposed score, it is D# which is covered by the key signature so no accidental is necessary.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Tue May 03, 2022 6:29 pm

In the transposed score the note is B♯.

But in the attached Finale document the score is in Concert Pitch = not a transposed score; the option {Display in Concert Pitch} is selected, and the note is D♯.

The error is that the D♯ is tied to the previous note (= E).
But a tie should be used only between two notes of the same pitch (= from an E to an E, or from a D♯ to a D♯).

In the Simple Entry Tool, select the D♯, and hit Shift-T, to remove the tie end.
Also move back onto the E, and hit the letter T key, to remove the forward tie.

You can connect the E and the D♯ with a slur.
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Post by bj nick » Tue May 03, 2022 7:04 pm

Thank you Peter! That was it....I understand what the tie is for, but sometimes I'll have a tied note and then go back and revoice something, and in this case I did that and neglected to remove the tie, thus the issue. I went back and fixed it and all is well. Much appreciated.
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Post by N Grossingink » Tue May 03, 2022 7:07 pm

In the transposed score the note is B♯.
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Post by bj nick » Tue May 03, 2022 7:38 pm

The note in question was the D in the alto 2 part, not Alto one.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Tue May 03, 2022 7:40 pm

N Grossingink,

We are both right.

Alto Sax 1 has F♯ in the Concert Pitch score - which indeed is D♯ in the Transposed score.

Alto Sax 2 has D♯ in the Concert Pitch score - which is B♯ in the Transposed score.

bj nick forgot to tell whether the “pesky” note was in Alto Sax 1 or in Alto Sax 2:
bj nick wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 5:52 pm
… Here's the bar in question, which is Alto Sax bar 2, on the D natural (which is playing back as D#, AS INTENDED, but notation shows it as D natural.) …
After bj nick’s latest post it is now clear that the “problem note” was in Alto Sax 2, in the Concert Pitch score.
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Post by bj nick » Tue May 03, 2022 8:41 pm

Good point, I didn't specify Alto one or two. But I did say bar 2 with the d..... I think that was pretty specific as stated.... However, the fact that there was any confusion at all is my fault--and I will make sure in the future to avoid any such issue.
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