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Post by lynndavidnewton » Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:19 pm

I'm using Finale 27.something (up to date) and macOS Monterey 12.4.

Somewhere there's a shortcut that will pop up a little menu where I can define a more-complex-than-triplet tuplet, for instance I can say I want 5 sixteenth in the space of 4, or in the relatively simple piece I'm working on, I need a sweeping arpeggio of 7 32nds on the first eighth of a bar. I'll be darned if I can find where that is. Help?

The annoying thing is that I've done this a thousand times, and for every new project I start I have to relearn how to do that. A few years ago, when I was setting some of my older complex music (think Berio or Boulez), I had to do this all day when I was working on a piece. Then by the next piece, I'd have to learn over again how to do that.

I've tried to act like a grown-up and checked the encyclopedia and simply cannot locate the information. Apologies for my stupidity. Thanks for the help.


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Post by mmike » Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:11 pm

Do you mean this?
Tools > Tuplet > double click on a note and voila!

tuplet def.jpg
and/or .... (from the Help Manual)

How to get there

The Tuplet Definition dialog box can be accessed with either the Tuplet tool or the Speedy Entry tool:

Choose the Tuplet tool icon.
Click the first note to include in the tuplet group, or click the first note of a tuplet, then double-click one of its handles.

Or,

Choose the Speedy Entry tool icon.
Click a measure to display the editing frame.
Press CTRL+1 to define the tuplet you want to enter.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:32 pm

mmike wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:11 pm
… Choose the Speedy Entry tool icon.
Click a measure to display the editing frame.
Press CTRL+1 to define the tuplet you want to enter.
That is the keyboard shortcut in the Windows version.
In the Mac version’s shortcut to the Speedy Entry Tool’s sub-tool Tuplet Tool, replace the CTRL key with the Option key:
Option+1

By The Way:
There is also a keyboard shortcut to the Simple Entry Tool’s sub-tool Tuplet Tool:
When a note is selected, press (Win Finale) CTRL+9, or (Mac Finale) Option+9.
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Post by lynndavidnewton » Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:33 pm

Yes!! OPTION + 9 on the Mac in Simple Entry. Thank you Peter Thomsen!
That's exactly the shortcut I searched endlessly for.
I must have tried everything else besides.

I almost always use Simple Entry rather than Speedy Entry, which I find is not so speedy.
I can enter notes with Simple Entry almost as fast as I can write them by hand.

And BTW, regarding the math in my original post: That would be 7 64th notes in an eighth, not 7 32nd notes.

Problem solved. Now to find a way to memorize or write down that trick where I'll remember it once and for all.

Thank you very much.

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Post by Anders Hedelin » Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:00 pm

If you are using a special tuplet frequently you might assign a metatool for it: http://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fina ... 20metatool
...and scroll down to the 'tuplet metatools'.
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Post by lynndavidnewton » Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:48 pm

When I use tuplets they can vary greatly, and hardly anything can be easier than Option + 1.

However, I was not familiar with Metatools, which looks like something I ought to learn about for possible other uses (e.g. for insertion of articulations), so I should look into that. Thanks for the tip.

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Post by Bill Stevens » Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:07 pm

Lynn,

Articulations (and some other tools) have pre-defined metatools; you can see them in the upper right hand corner of each articulation in the articulation selection grid. It is also easy to assign metatools by clicking the articulation or expression and typing Shift-x.

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:16 pm

Bill Stevens wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:07 pm
… It is also easy to assign metatools by clicking the articulation or expression and typing Shift-x …
For me the order is the opposite:

First, type Shift-(the desired key on the computer keyboard).

Then click the articulation or expression (depending on whether you are in the Articulation Tool or in the Expression Tool).
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