Problems on printing final double bar

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Post by Carrington_Bio » Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:09 am

Good afternoon,

I've been using Finale for 15 years and I've never found an awkward problem like this.

Everything's fine but when I try to print the file -through "Export -> pdf" or on printing in my virtual pdf printer, final double bars disappear:
Example01.jpg
Example02.jpg

Last bar style is set to "Normal" and Staff Attributes as usual:

Attributes.jpg

Any thoughts? The thing is that I've tried out with a lot of saved old files and when I try to reprint them the same thing happens...

Reinstall? :cry:

Thanks in advance
Carrington


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Post by N Grossingink » Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:40 pm

Change the bar style from normal to final. Print a copy on paper. Any difference?
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Post by ebiggs1 » Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:13 pm

Check this setting.
bar line.jpg
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Post by motet » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:05 pm

Are you saying you see a final barline on the screen but a double barline when you print?

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Post by Carrington_Bio » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:45 am

Thanks to all.

Yes, Final barline, ok; document options too.
Finale01.jpg
Finale02.jpg
And both in scroll view and page view final barlines appear in the expected way.
Finale04.jpg
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It's only on printing or exporting, I mean, on going out to the real world, which is a real problem for professional editing. :D

Thanks again

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Post by Bill Stevens » Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:47 pm

Do you want to post the file here to see if others can reproduce your problem?

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Post by ebiggs1 » Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:01 pm

Do you want to post the file here to see if others can reproduce your problem?
I would love to see it, too, out of curiosity.
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Post by motet » Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:36 pm

The lines in the printed final barline in your picture look too far apart to be a double barline, so I think it's the rendering of the heavy line rather than Finale settings.

I recommend against ever using File/Export/PDF. It's buggy. But if it's also happening printing to your virtual PDF printer, something else is wrong. It's worth trying all the PDF printers you have (e.g. Microsoft Print to PDF).

Another thing to try is changing Heavy Line Thickness in Document Options/Barlines just to see what happens.

Finally, I would also try this:

https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/ ... inale-etc-

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Post by Carrington_Bio » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:07 am

Thanks for all your guidance...

I haven't opened my 3.500 Finale files to check them all, but I've tried with 20 or so and all of them suffer from this error.

I'm uploading this one... Let's see if you have my problem or haven't :D
Mozar_Clarinet concert.musx
(99.79 KiB) Downloaded 33 times
(The final "t" from Mozart is missing, sorry)

Thanks again

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Post by ebiggs1 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:04 pm

Prints on my HP printer and PDF as normal. Final bar line looks perfect.
Mozar_Clarinet concert2.jpg
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Post by ebiggs1 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:06 pm

BTW, I did not see anything out of ordinary in your sample part.
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Post by Perotinus » Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:02 pm

Is there any possibility that your printer is cutting off the rightmost part of that final bar because the last bit of it is intruding into a margin that the printer doesn't print in? I think this is a rather far-fetched possibility but I just thought I'd ask.
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Post by Carrington_Bio » Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:13 pm

A big hi for all of you :-)

Sorry for my late answer but I've been on trip.

Thanks to Motet and his idea of restarting Finale preferences.

I'm not sure yet if that fixed the problem or maybe the change of my virtual pdf printer.

In any case, I applied these two changes and things went back to normal... Final double bars are now exported correctly an everything's is in the way it is expected.

Finale is on fire again

Thanks again :D

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