Finale notes appear on wrong place in staff

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Jasmine123
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Post by Jasmine123 » Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:34 am

If I depress a note on my Yamaha DGX-203 keyboard in Speedy Entry, followed by a "5" on my "typewriter keyboard," with the cursor centered in the "correct place," the note or notes on the Finale staff appear in the wrong place. (I depress an "a," and then a "d" appears in Finale.) Also, pressing a number on my "typewriter keyboard" (after setting the cursor on that note) results not in a rest -- but an "extraneous note." Here are the steps I've taken to resolve my issue:

1. I attach firmly the MIDI cable.
2. I turn on the Yamaha keyboard and check the settings before powering up the computer.
3. I set the "Local" option to "Off" on my DGX keyboard.
4. I set the "Keyboard Out" option to "On" (these settings are also possible by selecting "PC2" on the Yamaha DGX).
5. I power up my computer and open Finale.

(The Yamaha DGX appears in both "In" and "Out" on the MIDI menu.)

Recently, for a brief period, "everything" was working correctly (the Finale is 2003) (no snickers, please). (In completing a keyboard collection that was published, I've been able to use the same Finale on the same computer.) (When I "traced my steps," I was able to check all of the settings.)

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
(In a previous thread about this, Zuill was kind enough to research the issue and suggested changing the output to Softsynth.) I'll do that later today -- after I shut this computer off and connect my "Windows 8 computer."

I connected the DGX-203 to my "Windows 8 computer" and tried to follow all the suggestions here as best I could. I ended up using Simple Entry and was able to finish my project. But I think the next step, given what I know, is to reinstall Finale -- or upgrade to a newer Finale that will be compatible with the specs of my newer computer. Any comments will be appreciated.
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Post by Djard » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:39 pm

Have you tried the procedure in a new or default document? Just wondering if the formatting got corrupted.

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Post by Jasmine123 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:45 pm

I was able to uninstall Finale and reinstall it. The misbehavior mentioned in the original post still occurred.

<<Have you tried the procedure in a new or default document? Just wondering if the formatting got corrupted.>>

Yes, unfortunately without success.
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Post by motet » Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:29 am

Jasmine123 wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:34 am
Also, pressing a number on my "typewriter keyboard" (after setting the cursor on that note) results not in a rest -- but an "extraneous note."
That's the way Simple entry is supposed to work. A 3 adds a note a third above, a 4 a fourth above, etc. Use the keypad numbers to specify a duration. To enter a rest (after specifying a duration), press 0 (zero).

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Post by motet » Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:31 am

As far as pressing an A and getting a D, does your keyboard have a transpose feature?

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Post by Jasmine123 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:45 am

<<As far as pressing an A and getting a D, does your keyboard have a transpose feature?>>

Yes, but here are the reasons I don't believe it was used:
1. Transpose was set to 00 (which is no change).
2. I then set Transpose to 02 (which is up a major 2nd) and turned off the keyboard.
3. Transpose was set to 00 (which is no change) when I turned the keyboard back on.

(I remember not changing Transpose during my attempts to use Finale.)
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Post by Jasmine123 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:50 am

motet wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:29 am
Jasmine123 wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:34 am
Also, pressing a number on my "typewriter keyboard" (after setting the cursor on that note) results not in a rest -- but an "extraneous note."
That's the way Simple entry is supposed to work. A 3 adds a note a third above, a 4 a fourth above, etc. Use the keypad numbers to specify a duration. To enter a rest (after specifying a duration), press 0 (zero).
My "experiments" were done using Speedy Entry -- before I used Simple Entry to finish the project.
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Post by motet » Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:17 am

I wonder if there's some utility which listens on the MIDI port and reports which note is being sent.

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Post by motet » Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:19 am

If you press other notes, do you get other notes entered? Always the same distance from the pressed note?

Are you sure the transposition on the staff is set to None.

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Post by Jasmine123 » Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:42 pm

I put my "Accessory CD ROM" from Yamaha into my computer and you can see "USBdrv_" and "USBdrv2k_" in the results.

Can someone here say if I am supposed to import these into Finale?
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Post by Jasmine123 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:24 am

Thanks, guys, for persisting in trying to find an answer.

At this end, I persisted on my own and made one change -- clicking on "Use MIDI keyboard for input". Immediately, subsequent to doing this, my input problem cleared up. (I'm going to post one more q tonight about another issue.)
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Post by Djard » Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:34 am

Glad you solved the problem Persistance does pay off.

Here's another problem: if too many cooks spoil the broth, how come many hands make light work?

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Post by Jasmine123 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:17 pm

Djard said: "Here's another problem: if too many cooks spoil the broth, how come many hands make light work?"

This made me think of the paradox between "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" and "Familiarity breeds contempt."
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