Final Left Barline not displaying

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Post by ryanmeaghermusic » Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:17 pm

For some reason, I cannot get the FINAL left barline to display. I have "Final" selected in the "Left" section of the Measure Attributes Dialog box and it's not changing the left barline in any measure except the ones that begin a system.
I don't want to use a right final barline in the measure before, because it's backwards and looks weird.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:49 pm

Welcome to the forum!
ryanmeaghermusic wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:17 pm
… it's not changing the left barline in any measure except the ones that begin a system …
This is a matter of “Finale-speak”:

By definition, a Left Barline is a barline at the beginning of a system.
When a barline occurs anywhere else than at the beginning of a system, it is always a Right Barline.

Why do you need a Final Barline - and not a Forward Repeat Bar?
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Post by mmike » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:47 pm

It's not clear to me what you are actually trying to achieve, but it seems that you want to have a final barline to the right of the pick-uo measure?
If so, this is what you should do:
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Post by ryanmeaghermusic » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:26 am

Thanks. I tried that but it doesn't look right. For now, I'm just sticking with a double bar.

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Post by ryanmeaghermusic » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:28 am

Peter Thomsen wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:49 pm
Welcome to the forum!
ryanmeaghermusic wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:17 pm
… it's not changing the left barline in any measure except the ones that begin a system …
This is a matter of “Finale-speak”:

By definition, a Left Barline is a barline at the beginning of a system.
When a barline occurs anywhere else than at the beginning of a system, it is always a Right Barline.

Why do you need a Final Barline - and not a Forward Repeat Bar?
Thanks for the clarification on Finale Speak.
I don't want to a forward repeat bar because it's a short lead sheet and it doesn't "need" a repeat. I'm just trying to have it look like the beginning of the actual piece after a pickup measure. I am going to stick with a double bar line for now. Seems like one should be able to do whatever they want with a left barline on Finale...

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Post by N Grossingink » Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:29 am

I'm just trying to have it look like the beginning of the actual piece after a pickup measure.
I've never seen a final barline after a pickup measure. It doesn't make sense. If you're copying an existing source, it might behoove you to do it properly using "common practice".
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Post by motet » Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:57 am

If this is what you want, make it the right barline of the pick-up measure.
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