Check WHICH libraries loaded in a Document

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Post by SteinwayAndBaldwin » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:27 pm

Can/would someone please tell me WHERE I can check which libraries are loaded in a given document?


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Post by miker » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:42 pm

You can't. This has been a feature request for years. Sorry.
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Post by N Grossingink » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:59 pm

Finale doesn't remember any library imports. You could enter which library(ies) you import in the File Info pane of the Score Manager under "Description". Otherwise, there must be some unique settings that might indicate a library has been utilized.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:07 pm

This has been a feature request for years.
Only saving grace is, the current set of libraries is way better than it has been in the past.
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Post by michelp » Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:46 pm

For expressions (a.o) for example, I add an expression identifying the library and place it at the first position at the top of Show All, then resave the library.
 
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Post by BuonTempi » Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:42 pm

The real problem is that 'a library' is not an immutable thing. For Chords, Articulations and Expressions, you can add multiple libraries to the same document, and then save the collection as a new library.

And: if you delete or change any of the expressions, chords, artics -- is the library still loaded?

(It's a bit like the Ship of Theseus...!)

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Post by michelp » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:45 pm

Nice reference and analogy, the ship of Theseus...
Some "stable" libraries can be named. I designed my own chord suffixes and saved them as a library. If I add suffixes or make improvements, I still save the library under the same name. I see it as the "same ship" ;)
Same thing with other "reference" libraries that I have developed (staff styles, jazz or orchestra expressions, etc...) They are starting points and loaded into my templates.
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Post by BuonTempi » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:43 pm

It has to be said that 'another notation app' has a very nice implementation to address exactly this, in which you can compare all objects and options in one document against those of another, and copy over any or all that are different or missing.

This is exactly the kind of thing that should have been implemented in Finale, but hasn't; and probably never will be, unless someone comes up with a plug-in..

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