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Post by musicus » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:04 pm

I am stumped. See attached. Page numbers: the first page of music is "1" but
I can't seem to get the following pages as "2", "3" and so on. How do I do it?
The second movement, which begins on the last page of the attachment, is showing the first measure as "3." How do I get the first measure to show "1" as the measure number? Thanks.
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Post by michelp » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:18 pm

1) For "smart" page numbers, you have to create a text (Text tool), then Text menu -> Inserts -> Page Number. You can (Edit Frame) specify the region where the numbers should appear. And you can use the Edit Page Offset function (Text menu) if you want the page numbers to start at, say, page 3 but showing number 1.
2) The second region should actually start at measure 35.
Uncheck Hide first measure in region.
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Post by musicus » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:28 pm

I'm getting your measure regions suggestion but I'm just not getting the Page numbers. It keeps coming out wrong. Could you walk me through it?
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Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:18 pm
1) For "smart" page numbers, you have to create a text (Text tool), then Text menu -> Inserts -> Page Number. You can (Edit Frame) specify the region where the numbers should appear. And you can use the Edit Page Offset function (Text menu) if you want the page numbers to start at, say, page 3 but showing number 1.
2) The second region should actually start at measure 35.
Uncheck Hide first measure in region.

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Post by michelp » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:30 pm

Text Tool.
Double click on the page to create a text. You will see a blinking line.
Then text menu -> Inserts -> Page Number.
The sequence of page numbers is created.
The edit frame window and Edit Page Offset menu give you more options.
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Post by musicus » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:38 pm

I followed your direction and typed "1" - but "41" appears (below meas.9). Then I corrected it to "1"but no page numbers on the following pages. See attached.
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Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:30 pm
Text Tool.
Double click on the page to create a text. You will see a blinking line.
Then text menu -> Inserts -> Page Number.
The sequence of page numbers is created.
The edit frame window and Edit Page Offset menu give you more options.
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Post by motet » Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:54 am

The default document has page numbers. Maybe you should use that as a model. The page numbers start on page 2, as is customary, so create a default document, add 100 measures, and have a look.

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Post by michelp » Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:35 am

I never suggested to type 1...
Delete the 41.
You have page numbers at the top of the pages.
If you want them at another position, select the handle, right-click on it (or Ctrl-click on the Mac), select "Edit Frame Attributes" (to define their position, the page range, etc...).
P.S.: in the measure region, you may have to uncheck the box "Hide first measure...".
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Post by N Grossingink » Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:04 pm

Just a suggestion-

In the very first measure, you have staccato dotted quarters written. This will lead to confusion on how long the notes really are - there is really no such thing as a staccato dotted quarter note.

If you want just a bit of separation between notes, write a quarter and an eighth rest on each beat. More separation, an eighth and 2 eighth rests. Maximum shortness, a staccato eighth and 2 eighth rests.

Study the scores of the Beethoven symphonies - he very clearly notates length and playing style using note lengths, beaming patterns, etc.
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Post by musicus » Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:48 pm

I like your suggestion actually. I can see how it might lead to confusion. Thank you.
N Grossingink wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:04 pm
Just a suggestion-

In the very first measure, you have staccato dotted quarters written. This will lead to confusion on how long the notes really are - there is really no such thing as a staccato dotted quarter note.

If you want just a bit of separation between notes, write a quarter and an eighth rest on each beat. More separation, an eighth and 2 eighth rests. Maximum shortness, a staccato eighth and 2 eighth rests.

Study the scores of the Beethoven symphonies - he very clearly notates length and playing style using note lengths, beaming patterns, etc.

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Post by musicus » Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:28 pm

Oops, my bad. Thank you!
michelp wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:35 am
I never suggested to type 1...
Delete the 41.
You have page numbers at the top of the pages.
If you want them at another position, select the handle, right-click on it (or Ctrl-click on the Mac), select "Edit Frame Attributes" (to define their position, the page range, etc...).
P.S.: in the measure region, you may have to uncheck the box "Hide first measure...".

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