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Billy May
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Post by Billy May » Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:24 pm

Just upgraded for 2012 to v27. Many problems. One is, I'm getting blank boxes, for example, for expressions--nothing in there. Oh, and the redo / undo isn't working. Windows 10.

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Post by motet » Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:12 pm

I don't know why your expressions aren't there. Is that true for a new document, or only old ones?

Make sure Undo is enabled in Preferences.
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Post by N Grossingink » Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:46 pm

Sounds like a font problem if you open a 2012 file in 27 and see the missing text. Have you rebooted the computer since installing 27? Might be a good idea to do it anyway. You could also post a small file for others to test.
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Post by oldmkvi » Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:17 pm

Look in Show All, they will likely be there!

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Post by Billy May » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:51 pm

motet wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:12 pm
I don't know why your expressions aren't there. Is that true for a new document, or only old ones?

Make sure Undo is enabled in Preferences.
Old ones. Allow Undo worked. Thanks very much! Also, expression selection is blank, again, in old ones.

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Post by Billy May » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:52 pm

oldmkvi wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:17 pm
Look in Show All, they will likely be there!
All blank. Thank you. I'll post a file.

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Post by Billy May » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:03 pm

N Grossingink wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:46 pm
Sounds like a font problem if you open a 2012 file in 27 and see the missing text. Have you rebooted the computer since installing 27? Might be a good idea to do it anyway. You could also post a small file for others to test.
Thank you. Yes, rebooted (also reinstalled). Yes, small file attached. Thanks again.
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Post by wessmusic » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:35 pm

According to Score Manager, this file was created with Finale NotePad 2002.1.

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I suppose that could be the reason, though I'm only guessing.
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Post by N Grossingink » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:24 pm

If you still have Finale 2012, open the file with that version. If it looks OK, save it and then open that file with Finale 27. Worth a try.
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Post by Billy May » Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:07 am

N Grossingink wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:24 pm
If you still have Finale 2012, open the file with that version. If it looks OK, save it and then open that file with Finale 27. Worth a try.
Hi, I tried it n both 2012 and NotePad. Still blank.

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Post by Billy May » Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:09 am

Billy May wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:07 am
N Grossingink wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:24 pm
If you still have Finale 2012, open the file with that version. If it looks OK, save it and then open that file with Finale 27. Worth a try.
Hi, I tried it n both 2012 and NotePad. Had limited expressions but they were there. Saved the NotePad as MUS. Opened with v27, still blank.

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Post by motet » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:17 am

Make a new document and copy the old document into it and you should be good to go.

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Post by heinzfan » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:54 am

It sounds like it has to do with the Notepad file. You didn't state whether expressions in the original document were missing when opened in Finale. Otherwise you could just load the libraries you need.
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Post by Billy May » Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:01 am

heinzfan wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:54 am
It sounds like it has to do with the Notepad file. You didn't state whether expressions in the original document were missing when opened in Finale. Otherwise you could just load the libraries you need.
Yes, there's a limited expressions in NotePad. I was wondering if there was a way to load them. Thank you. I've never had to do this. Perhaps you can advise me. I'll tinker around with it.

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Post by Billy May » Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:51 am

motet wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:17 am
Make a new document and copy the old document into it and you should be good to go.
Hmmm, I was wondering about that. In my experience, the same staff layout and instruments have to be laid out. I'll try that right now. Thank you.

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Post by heinzfan » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:27 pm

Billy May wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:01 am
heinzfan wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:54 am
It sounds like it has to do with the Notepad file. You didn't state whether expressions in the original document were missing when opened in Finale. Otherwise you could just load the libraries you need.
Yes, there's a limited expressions in NotePad. I was wondering if there was a way to load them. Thank you. I've never had to do this. Perhaps you can advise me. I'll tinker around with it.
Everything you need to know is in the Help menu http://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fina ... %20library

If you don't know where the libraries are stored go to Edit/Preferences/Folders.
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Post by Billy May » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:15 pm

heinzfan wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:27 pm
Billy May wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:01 am
heinzfan wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:54 am
It sounds like it has to do with the Notepad file. You didn't state whether expressions in the original document were missing when opened in Finale. Otherwise you could just load the libraries you need.
Yes, there's a limited expressions in NotePad. I was wondering if there was a way to load them. Thank you. I've never had to do this. Perhaps you can advise me. I'll tinker around with it.
Everything you need to know is in the Help menu http://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fina ... %20library

If you don't know where the libraries are stored go to Edit/Preferences/Folders.
Thank you but I'm afraid I'm just not "getting it." Specifically the dynamics box is blank. So I looked for "dynamics" in the load libraries. I see "Dynamics" in the Jazz Font. They work but I can live with the font. No markings work when I apply something from articulations.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:19 pm

Yes, small file attached. Thanks again.
Perhaps it would be better for us to see the original file and not one converted to 27.3
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Post by Billy May » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:26 pm

ebiggs1 wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:19 pm
Yes, small file attached. Thanks again.
Perhaps it would be better for us to see the original file and not one converted to 27.3
OK, let me see... Meanwhile, the main trouble is no markings work when I apply something from articulations.

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Post by Billy May » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:33 pm

Billy May wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:26 pm
ebiggs1 wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:19 pm
Yes, small file attached. Thanks again.
Perhaps it would be better for us to see the original file and not one converted to 27.3
The main trouble is, no markings work when I apply something from articulations. Attached is the 2012 original file.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:20 pm

Isn't this what you want?
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Post by motet » Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:01 pm

motet wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:17 am
Make a new document and copy the old document into it and you should be good to go.
Have you tried this? I think it would be easier than all the back and forth here.

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Post by heinzfan » Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:06 pm

Billy May wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:15 pm
heinzfan wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:27 pm
Billy May wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:01 am


Yes, there's a limited expressions in NotePad. I was wondering if there was a way to load them. Thank you. I've never had to do this. Perhaps you can advise me. I'll tinker around with it.
Everything you need to know is in the Help menu http://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fina ... %20library

If you don't know where the libraries are stored go to Edit/Preferences/Folders.
Thank you but I'm afraid I'm just not "getting it." Specifically the dynamics box is blank. So I looked for "dynamics" in the load libraries. I see "Dynamics" in the Jazz Font. They work but I can live with the font. No markings work when I apply something from articulations.
Load the Maestro Font Default.Lib library. When you then click on any of the tools (expression, articulation, etc) they should all then be populated.
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Post by Billy May » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:36 pm

heinzfan wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:06 pm
Billy May wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:15 pm
heinzfan wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:27 pm


Everything you need to know is in the Help menu http://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fina ... %20library

If you don't know where the libraries are stored go to Edit/Preferences/Folders.
Thank you but I'm afraid I'm just not "getting it." Specifically the dynamics box is blank. So I looked for "dynamics" in the load libraries. I see "Dynamics" in the Jazz Font. They work but I can live with the font. No markings work when I apply something from articulations.
Load the Maestro Font Default.Lib library. When you then click on any of the tools (expression, articulation, etc) they should all then be populated.
That did it! Thank you. Now on to a host of other problems with v27.

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Post by ebiggs1 » Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:24 pm

Now on to a host of other problems with v27.
This was not a problem or bug. You just didn't know the solution. Something happened to the ".lib" file in your old Print Music file and 27.3 could not use it. What else hopefully they will be as easy to fix?
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