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Post by fcopaja » Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:03 am

Or should I left as it is?

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Post by ttw » Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:16 am

There needs to be much more context. What was the previous measure? What is the time signature? What is the clef?

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:39 am

Could be
- Clef: treble clef,
- Key Signature: four flats,
- Time Signature: 3/4 time.

Is there a problem?
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Post by fcopaja » Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:53 am

I was just wondering about the ledger lines (shorter?) and the natural sign placement.

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Post by John Ruggero » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:24 am

That's just what ledger lines do on a high second. If you don't like the look of it, you could put the final chord under an octave sign. There is a setting for shortening ledger lines, but it is project-wide and would effect all the ledger lines.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:28 am

It is a bit time consuming, but it can be done.

In the Shape Designer, enter the natural, and add a rectangle.
Select the rectangle (via the Shape Designer’s sub-tool Selection Tool), give it zero Line Thickness, fill it with White, and Send it to the Back - so that it is behind the natural.
The rectangle will “mask” the ledger lines.

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Post by N Grossingink » Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:41 pm

Peter's example looks great and undoubtably would have been the way an excellent plate engraver would have handled it. By the way, Dorico is able to "tuck" (move closer) accidentals in various ways, eliminating some of these problems.
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Post by fcopaja » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:13 pm

Perfect!, thank you all.

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Post by mmike » Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:20 pm

Not that it matters, since everybody seems to be happy with the solution ... but just out of curiosity and for my own enlightenment: why is this better than using the Accidental Mover Tool and the Note Position Tool? And if you do this last, with Automatic Music Spacing turned off, it won't be affected when you do the final spacing or layout.
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Post by fcopaja » Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:29 pm

The accidental could be moved, but gets obscured by ledger lines. The notehead position tool (I assumed you meant that, since the note position tool moves all noteheads) doesn't do the trick, one could move the note head shortening the ledger lines, but collision is unavoidable.

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Post by motet » Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:14 pm

I don't get a collision with the Finale defaults (first picture below), but mmike is right that you can move the notes to the right with the note position tool and the natural to the left with the accidental mover, which I've done in the second picture. This seems the easiest.
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Post by mmike » Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:04 pm

Exactly. That's what I did (and indeed with the note position tool, not the notehead position tool).
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