Make Playback Less Electronic Sounding
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I'm using Finale 25 for Windows. The attached file sounds very electronic, especially at the end of the excerpt. I originally created it in an earlier version of Finale (probably 2010). I first tried updating the sounds in the original file, but the sound didn't improve. I then created a new score using the Set-up Wizard and copied and pasted the music into the new file. I don't hear any improvement in the sound. Any ideas?
Julie Johnson
Owner, J. Johnson Music Publications
Author of Basics of Keyboard Theory, Ear Training Basics, and Guide to AP Music Theory
Owner, J. Johnson Music Publications
Author of Basics of Keyboard Theory, Ear Training Basics, and Guide to AP Music Theory
Hi, You were probably listening to the Synth, not Garritan Inst.
I loaded Garritan via Score Manager, did some panning in the Mixer, added a bit of reverb and put in a few Articulations in the first few bars.
It will sound mushy with out some Stacatto dots.
I loaded Garritan via Score Manager, did some panning in the Mixer, added a bit of reverb and put in a few Articulations in the first few bars.
It will sound mushy with out some Stacatto dots.
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Under MIDI/Audio I chose "Play Finale through VST." Is that incorrect? What's the right way to hear Garritan Inst?
Julie Johnson
Owner, J. Johnson Music Publications
Author of Basics of Keyboard Theory, Ear Training Basics, and Guide to AP Music Theory
Owner, J. Johnson Music Publications
Author of Basics of Keyboard Theory, Ear Training Basics, and Guide to AP Music Theory
- Michel R E
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1) you've used solo strings for the orchestra section. it will probably sound better if you use actual section strings.
2) you've applied no reverb at all, adding one of the presets, like "Concert Hall 1" will give a less dry and synthy sound.
2) you've applied no reverb at all, adding one of the presets, like "Concert Hall 1" will give a less dry and synthy sound.
User of Finale since version 3.0 on Windows.
Now using a mix of Finale 2012, Finale 25, and 26.1
GPO, Garritan Solo Stradivari violin, Gofriller Solo Cello.
XSamples Chamber Ensemble.
Absolute convert to NotePerformer3.
Now using a mix of Finale 2012, Finale 25, and 26.1
GPO, Garritan Solo Stradivari violin, Gofriller Solo Cello.
XSamples Chamber Ensemble.
Absolute convert to NotePerformer3.
- Michel R E
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Julie's file is also set to solo strings.oldmkvi wrote:I loaded Solo Strings by accident.
Section Strings will be better.
User of Finale since version 3.0 on Windows.
Now using a mix of Finale 2012, Finale 25, and 26.1
GPO, Garritan Solo Stradivari violin, Gofriller Solo Cello.
XSamples Chamber Ensemble.
Absolute convert to NotePerformer3.
Now using a mix of Finale 2012, Finale 25, and 26.1
GPO, Garritan Solo Stradivari violin, Gofriller Solo Cello.
XSamples Chamber Ensemble.
Absolute convert to NotePerformer3.
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Section Strings is more appropriate. Also, the Trumpet volume is a bit too much. I backed it off a bit to improve the balance.
Zuill
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
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This is all great help. Thanks to all of you for your suggestions. I tried to add reverb, but when I select MIDI/Audio, VST Banks and Effects, then Effects, there are no effects in the drop-down list. Do I need to download these? Maybe I need to re-install Aria Player?
Julie Johnson
Owner, J. Johnson Music Publications
Author of Basics of Keyboard Theory, Ear Training Basics, and Guide to AP Music Theory
Owner, J. Johnson Music Publications
Author of Basics of Keyboard Theory, Ear Training Basics, and Guide to AP Music Theory
- motet
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I use playback to listen for errors, and have been using SoftSynth MIDI. I would love something better-sounding, but in my experiments with Garritan, the only way to have it not sound terrible was to add a lot of reverb, which muddies the waters in terms of hearing clearly what's going on. Am I just not doing something right?
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juliepiano wrote:This is all great help. Thanks to all of you for your suggestions. I tried to add reverb, but when I select MIDI/Audio, VST Banks and Effects, then Effects, there are no effects in the drop-down list. Do I need to download these? Maybe I need to re-install Aria Player?
the reverb options can be found in each instance of the Aria Playe, rather than in the MIDI/Audio / VST Banks and Effects menu.
in the Aria player, there are tabs on the right hand side you can select, one gives you options for setting reverb. there are already presets for the Convolution and the reverb that comes with GPO.
User of Finale since version 3.0 on Windows.
Now using a mix of Finale 2012, Finale 25, and 26.1
GPO, Garritan Solo Stradivari violin, Gofriller Solo Cello.
XSamples Chamber Ensemble.
Absolute convert to NotePerformer3.
Now using a mix of Finale 2012, Finale 25, and 26.1
GPO, Garritan Solo Stradivari violin, Gofriller Solo Cello.
XSamples Chamber Ensemble.
Absolute convert to NotePerformer3.
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Thanks to all of you for your help. I found the effects options, changed to strings section, adjusted the volume here and there, and the excerpt sounds much better. The instructions you gave me will help with several ensemble and orchestral excerpts that go into this workbook revision.
Julie Johnson
Owner, J. Johnson Music Publications
Author of Basics of Keyboard Theory, Ear Training Basics, and Guide to AP Music Theory
Owner, J. Johnson Music Publications
Author of Basics of Keyboard Theory, Ear Training Basics, and Guide to AP Music Theory