Note Not Played with Human Playback
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I am having a strange problem with Human Playback in Finale 25, Windows version. Hope someone can help.
The following notes are entered to a new default document with two layers. If played with HP = Standard, the third note of layer 1 of the first measure is not heard, as verified by setting layer 1 to solo. Same when exported to a MIDI file. If played with HP = None, then it is heard. In both cases, the second measure is played correctly.
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Is this a bug of HP? If not, how to make it work? Thanks!
The following notes are entered to a new default document with two layers. If played with HP = Standard, the third note of layer 1 of the first measure is not heard, as verified by setting layer 1 to solo. Same when exported to a MIDI file. If played with HP = None, then it is heard. In both cases, the second measure is played correctly.
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Is this a bug of HP? If not, how to make it work? Thanks!
- FwL
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The note is the same in both layers. It isn't possible to play more than one instance of a note simultaneously on the same channel. This is a MIDI limitation, not a Finale or Human Playback limitation.
You'd have to set each layer to play back on a separate MIDI channel to get correct playback.
Search "Multi-part staves, instrument doubling, and channel assignments" in the help files.
You'd have to set each layer to play back on a separate MIDI channel to get correct playback.
Search "Multi-part staves, instrument doubling, and channel assignments" in the help files.
A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules... often with the aid of unsuspecting musicians - Frank Zappa
Thanks for the quick reply. I forgot to mention that I did set each layer to a different channel and different program, then set layer 1 to solo. It is clear to hear that the 3rd note is not played.FwL wrote: You'd have to set each layer to play back on a separate MIDI channel to get correct playback.
Do you Pan the Instruments?
I always do.
Might help.
Dynamics might help too.
Maybe there's too much reverb.
I like the Dry Setting.
HP plays super legato.
Maybe a marcatto setting would create the slight space between notes that real Players might do .
The attack you aren't hearing may just be merging with the release of the previous note.
What Inst are you using?
OK, probably it's none of these things...
I always do.
Might help.
Dynamics might help too.
Maybe there's too much reverb.
I like the Dry Setting.
HP plays super legato.
Maybe a marcatto setting would create the slight space between notes that real Players might do .
The attack you aren't hearing may just be merging with the release of the previous note.
What Inst are you using?
OK, probably it's none of these things...
I just created a new default document and entered the notes. So everything is the default setting, other than layer 1 = piano to channel 1, layer 2 = clarinet to channel 2. Then layer 1 is set to play as solo. The second measure is copied from the first measure with one note change for comparison.oldmkvi wrote: OK, probably it's none of these things...
For even more comparison, I changed the 2nd half note of layer 2 in the first measure to two tied quarter notes, as in the third measure below. Both measure 2 and 3 have no problem when played back! Strange!
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- gogreen
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I encounter this problem often in HP. To work around it, I've created macros with FinaleScript that shorten note durations by 95%, 90%, and 85%. These values are the three shorter durations I most often use in various situations to obtain a more natural sound, especially with woodwinds and brass.Maybe a marcatto setting would create the slight space between notes that real Players might do.
A Marcato setting? Is this an HP style or do you mean the articulation?
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Finale 27
NotePerformer, GPO5, COMB2
MacOS Ventura 13.6.6
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BRHBTHT/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=%22Arthur+J.+Michaels%22&qid=1593016536&sr=8-2