playback on Finale 25 is slower than a turtle

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ntun2music
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Post by ntun2music » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:15 pm

Since upgrading to Finale 25, I have been unable to playback any of my music, old or new. The green arrow advances but so extremely slowly that what you hear cannot even be called music. Sometimes it just stutters. Or, for a new song, it will not play a sound at all.

I have tried changing tempo speeds, but nothing seems to affect it. It stays on "turtle" mode!
Help! I am thinking of reverting to Finale 14.5, but I don't really want to do that. What am I missing?

I am running Windows 8.1.


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Post by miker » Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:35 am

I wonder if the incompatibility is with the older version of Windows, and not necessarily with Finale?
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Post by Michel R E » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:48 am

miker wrote:I wonder if the incompatibility is with the older version of Windows, and not necessarily with Finale?
I'm running Win 8.1 and Finale 25 and it's lightening fast.
So nothing to do with the OS.
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Post by ntun2music » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:37 am

I wondered about the Windows, too. Glad to see that isn't the problem. I didn't delete the other versions of Finale when I updated. Would that have caused any problems?

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Post by miker » Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:28 pm

I wouldn't think so. I have about six versions, and there doesn't seem to be any conflict.
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Post by oldmkvi » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:44 pm

Is the Buffer in Device Set-up set to Max?
4096 is the highest in Mac, needs to be set there for glitch-free Playback.

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Post by ntun2music » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:20 am

"Is the Buffer in Device Set-up set to Max?
4096 is the highest in Mac, needs to be set there for glitch-free Playback.[/quote]

How do I check that?

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Post by oldmkvi » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:18 am

Its in Midi/Audio/Device Set-up/Audio Set-up.
I set it 96 Sampling Rate, and 4096 Buffer.
Select your Source, Internal Speakers, or Dac.

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Post by miker » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:32 pm

My Buffer only goes up to 2048. Why is yours higher?

I'm running Finale 25.5 on a 2011 iMac, OS 10.13.6
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Post by oldmkvi » Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:08 pm

I'm High Sierra/Latest Finale.
Here are my Settings. Same with Mytek Dac, and Built-In Output.
Look in Audio/Midi in Utilities Folder.
Make sure Built-In Output (and Dacs, if you use any) are set to 24/96.

As to why you don't have 4096,
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Post by ntun2music » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:05 am

"Its in Midi/Audio/Device Set-up/Audio Set-up.
I set it 96 Sampling Rate, and 4096 Buffer.
Select your Source, Internal Speakers, or Dac."

Thanks. I set the sampling to 96000 and my Buffer to its highest setting at 8192 and the playback is working at proper speed. How would I ever have figured this out without you? Thank you so much.
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Post by oldmkvi » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:31 am

Good!
It's interesting that you, Mike and I all have different Max Buffer Settings available...

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Post by miker » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:39 pm

oldmkvi wrote:Good!
It's interesting that you, Mike and I all have different Max Buffer Settings available...
I would really like to know why. After reading all of the posts concerning stuttering playback, it finally occurred to me that it might solve my problem, as well. Since I have long said that playback doesn't matter to me (at least, to the level that many users require,) I have generally skimmed over the issue. Obviously, I was wrong, and I would like to improve (at least) my simple requirement!
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Post by oldmkvi » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:28 pm

Anyone else want to chime in here?
What Buffer Sizes to people have, Mac and Windows?

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Post by zuill » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:07 pm

Win 7, Finale 25. Maximum buffer size 8192.

In the standalone Aria player: 32,768.

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P.S.: My sample rate in Finale 25 is pre-determined by my soundcard, which is set to 44,100.
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Post by miker » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:59 pm

Any reference that I could find on buffer size on a Mac was always in an article about another audio program. So I wonder if those other programs are the determining factor?
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