Play different notes on layer 1 and layer 2

Discuss playback problems, including VST, Garritan, MIDI, etc.

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vpciro
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Post by vpciro » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:41 pm

I am going nuts with this. I have a couple of measures where the notes are slightly different on Layer 1 vs. Layer 2 for each of two passes.

The attached file shows what I mean.
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How can I set this up so that the separate parts are played on their respective layers with each pass? The black notes on Layer 1 should play on the first pass and the red ones on the second pass.

These are the only measures in the entire piece that require this.

Boy, would I really appreciate your help! Many thanks in advance.


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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:55 pm

Welcome to the forum!

Take a look at the attached demo.
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Post by zuill » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:09 pm

That works for MIDI, but not VST (Audio Units). For VST (or Audio Units), you would need to use expressions to change the layer to an unused channel when muting.

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Post by vpciro » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:46 pm

Many, many thanks. Let me try and digest this and I will give it a try and let you know how I make out. I do really appreciate your advice.
Be well, stay safe and I'll let you know.

Semper Fi :wink:

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Post by vpciro » Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:49 pm

I truly appreciate your advice but it didn't work. I guess Finale just has playback "issues". I'll just live with it. Not much else I can do. They really should address this sometime. :(

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Post by miker » Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:12 pm

Did the sample files Peter and Zuill posted play back the way you wanted?
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Post by FranckHG » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:25 pm

I think the discussion is not finished. The sample files work but I was unable to recreate them from scratch. I Searched for hours and I finally found. I consider myself as an intermediate Finale user since many commands and settings are still obscur to me, and the learning curve is steep. Here what I found:

1) It is obvious to select layer 1 or 2 depending on where you want to apply the Mute/Un-mute
2) Right click on the expression you have assigned. Select Expression Assigment:
- Show On: choose the layer 1 or 2 where you want your expression to apply
- On Playback, Affect: choose the same layer as above.
3) Go to ScoreManager and select the instrument of the layers: Click on the instrument in the second column to reveal the layers. For layer 1 choose MIDI channel 1 and for layer 2 choose MIDI channel 2.

Your file should play the repeats correctly. I think FInale must propose a simpler way to do this.

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