Help! Drum track plays back with piano sound

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Djard
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Post by Djard » Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:49 pm

I edited a document beyond what Finale supports, after which the drum track began to play back with a piano sound (see attached).

The following attempts to fix the issue fail: closing Finale and reopening the document; deleting the MIDI Data; reassigning the playback sounds; changing the Device from SmartMusic to Garritan; changing the instrument in Utilities to Brush Drum Kit (playback of the notation becomes erratic); deleting the instrument, creating a fresh track then copying and pasting it back in from a backup copy of the document; and exporting the document as an XML to clear the formatting then pasting it in a fresh drum track. The latter is not an option; since in doing so, Finale scatters and distorts the notation so much that I may as well rewrite the score. I'm ready to cry!

Anything else I can try?
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Post by oldmkvi » Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:21 pm

ALL I get are Drum Ticks.
No other sound at all.
Here's a Screen Shot of the Score Manager.
No Garritan inst at all.
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Post by miker » Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:23 pm

oldmkvi, in score manager, he had the the percussion set to solo. (See the green dot?)

I set the percussion to Channel 10, playback through MIDI. It works. (No Garritan installed.)
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Post by motet » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:11 pm

Right--General MIDI percussion must be on channel 10.

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Post by Djard » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:12 pm

Thanks for the help.

On my system, Garritan is installed:
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Assigning the drum set track to channel 10 and setting Finale to playback through MIDI restored the correct sound; but in doing so, the Hi-Hat in the drum track now plays back erratically (q.v.). Can that be corrected?
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Post by motet » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:45 pm

Things seem to play back ok for me, but "Hi-Hat Foot Splash" is apparently not in the percussion map (hence the italics and MIDI note in parentheses). I hear a ringing cymbal--is that way you mean by erratic? Can you get by with plain "Hi-Hat Foot"?
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Post by Djard » Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:55 pm

I always understood a MIDI note in parentheses to be a duplicate sound: "Hi-Hat Open" is #46 and "Foot Splash" is (46). They sound identical. But I may be mistaken about the parentheses.

In the attached document, the Foot Splash plays back correctly on my system. The rhythmic pattern of the Hi-Hat in the 2nd and 3rd measures should be identical to that of the cross stick in the first measure (one-party-two-party). On my system, the Hi-Hat in the 2nd and 3rd measures sounds like randomly timed morse code. The latter is what I need to correct. Can you help?
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Post by motet » Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:52 pm

Plays back OK for me, but try clearing MIDI data.

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Post by Djard » Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:36 pm

I did clear the MIDI data, more than once. But with some luck, I managed to solve the problem as follows.

1. Score Manager -> select the drum set.
2. Make sure the "Notation Style" is "Percussion" -> Settings -> Drum Set -> Edit.
3. Select the erratic instrument (e.g. Hi-Hat Closed) -> remove ("-" button at bottom left).
4. Add ("+" button at bottom left) -> from "Note Type" drop-down menu, point to "Cymbals" -> Hi-Hat -> Hi-Hat Closed.
5. Select staff position to 11, with an x notehead -> OK -> Select.

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