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Collisions of accidentals/notes, and tuplet consolidation

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:29 pm
by soundartist
Greetings,
Two questions:
1. I'm having several cases of collisions between accidentals and notes. I have the "avoid collisions" checked in Document Options—I tried unchecking it and checking it, with no result. Also tried reducing font-size of notes, but does not help.
2. How do I consolidate a group of two triplets into a single group of 6 notes? I couldn't find discussion of this topic in the manual.
Attached is a snapshot addressing both questions.
Thank you in advance.
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iMac, Finale 2014

Re: Collisions of accidentals/notes, and tuplet consolidatio

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:01 pm
by miker
As far as the collisions are concerned, it looks like you just have too many notes for the measure size. I would try fewer measures per system.

I'm away from the computer, so I can't play with your second question.

Re: Collisions of accidentals/notes, and tuplet consolidatio

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:04 pm
by soundartist
Understood, thank you.
miker wrote:As far as the collisions are concerned, it looks like you just have too many notes for the measure size. I would try fewer measures per system.

I'm away from the computer, so I can't play with your second question.

Re: Collisions of accidentals/notes, and tuplet consolidatio

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:29 pm
by Peter Thomsen
soundartist wrote:…1. I'm having several cases of collisions between accidentals and notes. I have the "avoid collisions" checked in Document Options—I tried unchecking it and checking it, with no result. Also tried reducing font-size of notes, but does not help…
See the attached Finale 2014 document.
Test.zip
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NB:
When you have downloaded the .zip file, do not un-zip it.
Instead, change the file name extension from .zip to .musx

I tried to duplicate your problem, and I did not get those collisions.
My guess is that you are squeezing too much music into too little space.
Fix:
- use fewer measures per system
or
- resize the music to a smaller percentage.

soundartist wrote:…2. How do I consolidate a group of two triplets into a single group of 6 notes?…
You can do it “manually”:
Use the Tuplet Tool to delete the two triplets.
Now you have 6 “normal” notes.
Use the Tuplet Tool to turn the 6 “normal” notes into a sextuplet.

In case you need to do this a gazillion times, consider using a plug-in/utility.
I can not say that I know it for sure, but I suspect that Jari Williamson’s plug-in JW Change can do the job.

Re: Collisions of accidentals/notes, and tuplet consolidatio

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:06 pm
by soundartist
Thank you very much for all your suggestions—shall try them and let you know.
Peter Thomsen wrote:
soundartist wrote:…1. I'm having several cases of collisions between accidentals and notes. I have the "avoid collisions" checked in Document Options—I tried unchecking it and checking it, with no result. Also tried reducing font-size of notes, but does not help…
See the attached Finale 2014 document.
Test.zip
NB:
When you have downloaded the .zip file, do not un-zip it.
Instead, change the file name extension from .zip to .musx

I tried to duplicate your problem, and I did not get those collisions.
My guess is that you are squeezing too much music into too little space.
Fix:
- use fewer measures per system
or
- resize the music to a smaller percentage.

soundartist wrote:…2. How do I consolidate a group of two triplets into a single group of 6 notes?…
You can do it “manually”:
Use the Tuplet Tool to delete the two triplets.
Now you have 6 “normal” notes.
Use the Tuplet Tool to turn the 6 “normal” notes into a sextuplet.

In case you need to do this a gazillion times, consider using a plug-in/utility.
I can not say that I know it for sure, but I suspect that Jari Williamson’s plug-in JW Change can do the job.

Re: Collisions of accidentals/notes, and tuplet consolidatio

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:19 pm
by soundartist
Realized I forgot to thank you for your help longer ago—your tip did work.