Negative Harmony?

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Yellowhammer
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Negative Harmony?

Post by Yellowhammer » Fri May 06, 2022 7:25 am

I'd like to see a negative harmony option in Canonic Utilities. I can do instant chromatic and diatonic inversions of music there, but no negative harmony. It's a really useful composition tool. Also, a lot of people seem to be jumping up and down about negative harmony all over Youtube because of Jacob Collier, and it's also covered in this book, which mentions Finale with regards to chromatic inversion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCsa9ldlIWU

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motet
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Re: Negative Harmony?

Post by motet » Sun May 08, 2022 3:33 am

Finale's Canonic Utilities probably date from the 1990s, so there's no chance they'll be updated.

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Peter Thomsen
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Re: Negative Harmony?

Post by Peter Thomsen » Sun May 08, 2022 6:18 am

I would not hold my breath, waiting for a such feature in Finale.

Instead, I would hire a third party developer.
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miker
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Re: Negative Harmony?

Post by miker » Sun May 08, 2022 7:09 pm

And so, musical creativity is reduced to formulaic button pushing and drum machines. Feh.

Color me not impressed.
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motet
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Re: Negative Harmony?

Post by motet » Mon May 09, 2022 1:49 am

I've never heard of negative harmony.

To be fair, Bach did inversion, retrograde, etc., in his compositions. Or, listen to the first movement of Brahms's first symphony, for example.

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Jay Emmes
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Re: Negative Harmony?

Post by Jay Emmes » Mon May 09, 2022 1:58 pm

Inversion, retrograde and inverted retrograde are techniques used already in Renaissance polyphony. Nothing new or fancy there.
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