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ThomaStudios
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One question - One request

Post by ThomaStudios » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:33 pm

First the request:

This is a big one to me, but perhaps not to others, depending on your workflow.

Long ago, the developers saw fit to remove the Cancel button from the 'Two Many Beats in a Measure' dialog. PLEASE, REINSTATE IT!!! This has been a long standing pet peeve of mine because without that Cancel button, the user must interact with the dialog. And often that dialogs pops up because of a mistyped command like selecting the wrong note value in Speedy Entry. Life was so much better before that "imrprovment (NOT)" because one could simply type Command-. to exit the dialog. It was fast and barely interrupted the workflow.

The question involves why Finale almost always asks to save a file. In my teaching, I am constantly opening a file and just printing it for students. But every time I close the file, Finale asks to save changes. I didn't make any changes!! Just close the damn file! What it the reasoning behind this behavior??
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Post by David Ward » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:03 pm

I'm inclined to support both of your wishes. It's a pity than no-one from MM seems to admit to looking at this users' forum.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:57 pm

ThomaStudios wrote:… The question involves why Finale almost always asks to save a file. In my teaching, I am constantly opening a file and just printing it for students. But every time I close the file, Finale asks to save changes. I didn't make any changes!! Just close the damn file! What it the reasoning behind this behavior??
What are your settings in
Preferences - Open
?

I suspect that you have some automatic setting selected.
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Post by miker » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:00 pm

On the "new" MM forum, there is a Feature Request tab that they actually monitor and (eventually) respond to.
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Post by motet » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:47 am

Thinking the file has changed when it hasn't bugs me, too. I've complained, but they don't seem inclined or able to fix it. I guess they think it's minor, but I think something that encourages you to learn to ignore a warning is bad.

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Post by mknoll » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:32 pm

Peter,

Are you saying that you do not experience the behavior described by the OP? This "dirty on open" behavior has bothered me for many years, so if there is a known a fix, or you at least can confirm that you are not experiencing it such that there is hope that some combination of settings might fix it, I'd be happy to hear of it.

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:44 pm

mknoll wrote:Peter,

Are you saying that you do not experience the behavior described by the OP? This "dirty on open" behavior has bothered me for many years, so if there is a known a fix, or you at least can confirm that you are not experiencing it such that there is hope that some combination of settings might fix it, I'd be happy to hear of it.
Try e. g. de-selecting “Automatic Update Layout” - and see whether it makes a difference.
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Post by mknoll » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:15 pm

Thanks Peter. That indeed fixes it for me. Haven't others been saying, though, that "Automatic Update Layout" should be left on for other reasons?

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Post by David Ward » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:25 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:Try e. g. de-selecting “Automatic Update Layout” - and see whether it makes a difference.
mknoll wrote:That indeed fixes it for me. Haven't others been saying, though, that "Automatic Update Layout" should be left on for other reasons?
It begins to make sense…
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Post by motet » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:44 pm

Turning off Automatic Update Layout doesn't fix it for me. It seems like a bad solution anyway.

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:48 pm

motet wrote:Turning off Automatic Update Layout doesn't fix it for me …
Perhaps you also have another automatic feature toggled on somewhere in the Preferences.
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Re: One question - One request

Post by motet » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:47 pm

I tried turning of the data check or whatever they're calling it this time, to no avail. But I'm not willing to turn off Automatic Update Layout anyway.

This is not rocket science. Every other piece of software I've ever used does it right. MakeMusic has had years to fix it and apparently can't. This level of ineptness makes me really fear for Finale's future.

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Re: One question - One request

Post by Peter S. » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:37 am

My experience is that printing is the fact that makes finale to save the file again.
Without printing I can open and close a file without saving it..

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