Vibrato and Tremolo

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Post by jamesadrian » Sun May 06, 2018 2:29 pm

I stopped using Finale last year because I was writing music that required control over vibrato and tremolo. There was no playback sound that could sustain a note for two measures without either effect.

Has this changed?

I had hoped to be able to introduce each of these independently and to a controllable degree. That is essential also. Is that in the works?

I was told that violins were recorded as they are played by musicians. It would seem easy enough to capture one wavelength of an instrument, perhaps in each octave or so, to add to the instrument list. After that, vibrato and tremolo could be added by additional functions. Does anybody care about this?

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Post by Bill Reed » Tue May 08, 2018 12:03 pm

It's not Finale but the sound library used. You'd need to use a sound library that supports these parameters, no mater what program you use.
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Post by jamesadrian » Wed May 09, 2018 12:34 am

Bill Reed,

Where might I get a sound library that includes sounds that have the properties that I have described?

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Post by jamesadrian » Mon May 14, 2018 6:21 pm

Does Finale publish requirements of sound files playable in Finale? That would be what a software company or programmer would need to know to create sound files that could be used in Finale.

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Post by Bill Reed » Mon May 14, 2018 7:10 pm

Hi Jim,

Sorry, just getting back to this...

The standard format is VST / Audio Unit. Any sound library will be available in that format.

What are you looking for more specifically? These thing s can be quite expensive...

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Post by jamesadrian » Mon May 14, 2018 7:58 pm

Bill,

As a programmer, I wish to learn how to write a sound file that I can specify all features of the sound. You say that VST / Audio Unit is the format. That is a lead. Do you have anything more I can go on?

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Post by motet » Mon May 14, 2018 9:45 pm

Do a Google search. Wikipedia is a good place to start.

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Post by Staccatissimo » Tue May 15, 2018 10:27 am

jamesadrian wrote:Does Finale publish requirements of sound files playable in Finale? That would be what a software company or programmer would need to know to create sound files that could be used in Finale.

Thank you for your help.

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I want to add that only a few sound libraries endorse native support for Finale.
If I remember right it is VSL and Xsample.

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Post by jamesadrian » Tue May 22, 2018 2:04 am

I find it amazing that such a basic kind of control (one that no conductor could be without) is absent from Finale. Is there any competing software that has control of vibrato and tremolo, or at least turn it off? All of these expensive and complicated paths to the solution can only inspire competition for Finale, while Finale is in the most convenient position to add these features.

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Post by Bill Reed » Tue May 22, 2018 12:45 pm

Again, you're confusing Finale with the basic set of Garritan instruments that are included for free. Finale can control anything. You need a sound library that provides that control.
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Post by jamesadrian » Tue May 22, 2018 12:57 pm

Where is the Garritan forum?

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Post by FwL » Tue May 22, 2018 1:25 pm

You probably need to look into something like Vienna Symphonic Library and MIDI sequencing software. Expecting a notation program to provide performance perfect playback is unrealistic.
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Post by Bill Reed » Tue May 22, 2018 1:57 pm

You can look here: https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us
but Garritan isn't going to have anything like that.

I suggest you hang out here: https://vi-control.net/community/
for a while at VI-Control. It's all about sound libraries and the software to use them.

You might find this a useful resource:
https://www.amazon.com/Guide-MIDI-Orche ... hestration
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