how to change note durations

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tanyaviola
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Post by tanyaviola » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:41 pm

I have a line of 32nd notes (2 measures worth) in 4/4. I'd like to change them all to 16th note tuplets instead, still fitting into the 2 measures. Can't figure out a way to do this without deleting the entire line and just re-writing them. I have many more of these I need to change, so it would be nice if there were a shortcut. Anyone know of one?

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T.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:30 pm

Hello T.

I am afraid I do not understand.

If you increase the duration of the notes as described in your post, and still want them to fit into 2 measures, then you will have to,
either
change the time signature according to the increased duration,
or
omit some of the notes (= loose some part of the melodic line).

But perhaps there is not any melodic line at all? (= are all the notes the same pitch?)

Please explain.

The better we understand the problem, the better we can help you.

PS
You are using Finale 2014, right?
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Post by tanyaviola » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:56 pm

They are all 32nd notes currently. No melody. Basically, a scale in 3 octaves, up and down. Originally it ended with a half note at the end of the 2nd measure. I took the half note out and the 16th note tuplets should fit into the 2 measures evenly without changing the time signature, which is 4/4. I mean, it does fit, because the new items I am writing into Finale include the same tuplet figure fitting into the 2 measure slot where the old 32nd notes would have been. Does that make more sense?

So the original had all 32nd notes until the last 2 beats of the 2nd measure, which was a half note. I would like to delete the half note and only have the 16th note tuplets all the way through the entire 2 measures.

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:40 am

1) To delete the half note without getting the half note replaced by a half rest, de-select "Fill with Rests at End of Measure".

2) To change the note durations, I think that you can use one of Jari Williamson’s plug-ins, perhaps
JW Change or JW Meter and Rhythm.
You can find Jari’s plug-ins here:
finaletips.nu

Tip:
Take a good look at all of Jari’s plug-ins.
Lots of goodies.
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Post by tanyaviola » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:27 pm

Thanks....I will have a look!

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Post by MowingDevil » Mon May 27, 2019 10:13 pm

(I know this is old but perhaps will be helpful)

Not sure what version you're running (or when they incorporated this) but in v2014.5 you can do exactly what you want w/o plugins.
Utilities > Change > Note durations
With your measures of 32nd notes selected either choose 50% or click on 16ths and apply.

I've found that expanding note durations beyond the bar is not very stable. Finale cannot handle expanding past a measure for some reason and everything spills underneath the next measure. Perhaps someone knows how to handle that? It's awkward trying to correct it.

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Post by mmike » Tue May 28, 2019 2:56 pm

see this thread - Zuill has provided me with the perfect method to achieve this - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16598
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