Shortcuts for Scrolling?
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In the Scroll View, is there a way to scroll right/left (advancing by measure) using the keyboard?
Or maybe a way to assign scrolling shortcuts to Keyboard Maestro?
Or maybe a way to assign scrolling shortcuts to Keyboard Maestro?
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- Peter Thomsen
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Since you are asking about Scroll View, I suppose that you are in the initial ‘music input’ phase, not in the later ‘layout’ phase - right?
Are you using Speedy Entry or Simple Entry?
Is your operating system set to American computer keyboard layout?
Keyboard shortcuts are shown in the (sub-)menus.
But you probably already knew that.
I suppose that you can use these keyboard shortcuts in Keyboard Maestro.
In the Speedy Entry Tool:
Speedy menu > Speedy Navigation > …
In the sub-menu Speedy Navigation the menu items display their keyboard shortcuts.
Take a good look at them.
In my own copy of Finale the sub-menu Speedy Navigation shows that
[ moves to the previous measure
] moves to the next measure
In the Simple Entry Tool:
Simple menu > Simple Navigation Commands > …
In the sub-menu Simple Navigation Commands the menu items display their keyboard shortcuts.
Take a good look at them.
You go one measure to the left with ⌘←
You go one measure to the right with ⌘→
Are you using Speedy Entry or Simple Entry?
Is your operating system set to American computer keyboard layout?
Keyboard shortcuts are shown in the (sub-)menus.
But you probably already knew that.
I suppose that you can use these keyboard shortcuts in Keyboard Maestro.
In the Speedy Entry Tool:
Speedy menu > Speedy Navigation > …
In the sub-menu Speedy Navigation the menu items display their keyboard shortcuts.
Take a good look at them.
In my own copy of Finale the sub-menu Speedy Navigation shows that
[ moves to the previous measure
] moves to the next measure
In the Simple Entry Tool:
Simple menu > Simple Navigation Commands > …
In the sub-menu Simple Navigation Commands the menu items display their keyboard shortcuts.
Take a good look at them.
You go one measure to the left with ⌘←
You go one measure to the right with ⌘→
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I posted a question about this quite some time ago, in some forum, and got no useful reply. I'm sorry Peter, but this wasn't helpful either. In scroll view I would like to be able to scroll one measure at a time, back or forth, regardless of which tool I'm using.
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I don't know how much use this will be for you, finalizer, but if (on a Mac) you key Shift-Command-G and then enter a bar number, Scroll View will go to it (as the first bar in the display) when you hit return. In longer scores scrolling to a precise place without overshooting can be quite difficult, so on occasion I have been known to use this.
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Apparently that was added after my version (if I do Help/User manual I get the wrong manual for my version, by the way). On Windows, <Alt+U><#><Enter> will work in previous versions (where # is your desired measure).
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View menu > Go to Measure… (and pay attention to its keyboard shortcut)
I am not sure, in what version Go to Measure was added to the View menu, but I have had it for a long time.
I am not sure, in what version Go to Measure was added to the View menu, but I have had it for a long time.
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In the old forums there are scripts for exactly this. AHK for windows, for OSX I am not sure. I usually did not go much to the Mac side of the forum.
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On OSX I use Keyboard Maestro (indispensable) "Click from found image", which clicks the identified go-left bar icon. (sample graphic attached). Offsets the click 65 pixels right for moving right.
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What Motet wrote is right, but there was also a solution from Charles Lawrence that did not use keystrokes. The longest thread is here:
https://forum.makemusic.com/default.asp ... 3&m=387430
...where you can find a file called Scroll.ahk on page 2.
It goes something like:
Code: Select all
!^Right::
ControlGetPos, xx,yy,ww,hh, ScrollBar1, ahk_class Finale
x := ww-hh/2
y := hh/2
ControlClick, ScrollBar1, ahk_class Finale,,,, X%x% Y%y%
return
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- motet
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It was fun reading that thread! Someone with the userid "saxop" came up with the keystroke solution I posted above. The Charles/Harpsi method finds the arrow control and clicks it. Both seem to work well.
Last edited by motet on Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Thanks for the tip (Mac). It works.
Michel
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In more details, here is what worked for me (example of the left scrolling by 1 measure) :
• In Keyboard Maestro (Mac only), select the Finale folder
• Create a new macro (+) and give it a name
• Define a hot key
• Create a new action : "Click at Found Image"
• Make a screen capture of the left buttons (bottom left corner of the Finale window). As the definition of monitors can vary, it is better to make your own capture.
• Drag/drop that image into the image box
• Try the macro. If necessary, modify the coordinates of the click until it works. The left box is for horizontal. The value can be negative or positive.
• In Keyboard Maestro (Mac only), select the Finale folder
• Create a new macro (+) and give it a name
• Define a hot key
• Create a new action : "Click at Found Image"
• Make a screen capture of the left buttons (bottom left corner of the Finale window). As the definition of monitors can vary, it is better to make your own capture.
• Drag/drop that image into the image box
• Try the macro. If necessary, modify the coordinates of the click until it works. The left box is for horizontal. The value can be negative or positive.
Last edited by michelp on Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
Michel
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FWIW here's the old discussion on the topic:
https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/ ... roll-View-
Since the Feature Requests Forum now seems to be hibernating (if not deceased), it wouldn't be much point in posting there again.
https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/ ... roll-View-
Since the Feature Requests Forum now seems to be hibernating (if not deceased), it wouldn't be much point in posting there again.
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It worked. Many thanks for your help!michelp wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:56 amIn more details, here is what worked for me (example of the left scrolling by 1 measure) :
• In Keyboard Maestro (Mac only), select the Finale folder
• Create a new macro (+) and give it a name
• Define a hot key
• Create a new action : "Click at Found Image"
• Make a screen capture of the left buttons (bottom left corner of the Finale window). As the definition of monitors can vary, it is better to make your own capture.
• Drag/drop that image into the image box
• Try the macro. If necessary, modify the coordinates of the click until it works. The left box is for horizontal. The value can be negative or positive.
scroll_left.jpeg
And thanks everyone!
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It would be nice if the AHK & Maestro macros for control-page up and down in were not buried in the midst of this forum entry (given that they are essential but not built-in features of the product!).
Is there any method of 'publishing' the best macros and work rounds?
It can't be an immense task for MM to add those two key board accelerators to the relevant buttons. . . .
Is there any method of 'publishing' the best macros and work rounds?
It can't be an immense task for MM to add those two key board accelerators to the relevant buttons. . . .
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I can't memorize all those multi-fingers and multi-hand keystrokes. Has anybody just tried the Navigation "hand"? It moves anywhere you want, one or two or many measures. And, it is very easy to use.
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