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Where & how to place whole bars rest during cadenza?

Postby David Ward » Wed May 16, 2018 10:17 am

What is the best solution for placement of the whole bar rest plus pausa under the mini cadenza for bassoon 1? Is it OK where it is, or should it be more to the left? If so, how best to move it?

I used JW conceal barlines for the cadenza and blank notation in the three lower staves for the concealed whole bars rests.
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Re: Where & how to place whole bars rest during cadenza?

Postby Peter Thomsen » Wed May 16, 2018 10:35 am

David Ward wrote:What is the best solution for placement of the whole bar rest plus pausa under the mini cadenza for bassoon 1? Is it OK where it is, or should it be more to the left? …

I would move it a little to the left, to get approximately the same amount of horizontal space before it and after it (where the space after it should be measured all the way to the barline at rehearsal mark 1).
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I would move it one or two quarters to the left.


David Ward wrote:… If so, how best to move it? …

What did you do to create it, and to position it where it is now?

I suppose you could use the Smart Shape Tool, and create it as a (zero thickness) custom line with the whole rest centered between the endpoints.
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Re: Where & how to place whole bars rest during cadenza?

Postby David Ward » Wed May 16, 2018 11:01 am

Peter Thomsen wrote:… … …What did you do to create it, and to position it where it is now?

I suppose you could use the Smart Shape Tool, and create it as a (zero thickness) custom line with the whole rest centered between the endpoints.

I did nothing clever! After concealing the barlines, I hid the whole bar rests in the first two bars and in the fourth bar with the Staff Style, but left this one revealed.
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Re: Where & how to place whole bars rest during cadenza?

Postby N Grossingink » Wed May 16, 2018 11:28 am

Is it a "real" whole rest or a default? If it's a real entered rest, you can move it with Special Tools > Note Position Tool.

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Re: Where & how to place whole bars rest during cadenza?

Postby David Ward » Wed May 16, 2018 3:23 pm

Following advice from the notat.io forum from John Ruggero to look at Gould p 610, this is how I now have it (some fine tuning required).

I changed the Staff Style to cover all four bars and not to ‘display rests in empty measures.’ In addition, I created a whole bar rest as an expression.
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Re: Where & how to place whole bars rest during cadenza?

Postby motet » Wed May 16, 2018 4:17 pm

Rather than hiding barlines, I would make it one large measure (hide time signature, or "use another for display"); then Finale will center the whole rest automatically.
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Re: Where & how to place whole bars rest during cadenza?

Postby David Ward » Fri May 18, 2018 9:52 pm

It's turned out to be a bit of a non-problem, as each of the short cadenzas for Bsn 1 in this little (4 min) piece can be made to fit on one system.

(Parts are now complete with the Bsn 1 cadenzas cued into the other three parts.)
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