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Gray Notes on Percussion Rolls and Instrumental Trills

Postby basieman » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:35 pm

Windows, Finale version 25.5.0.290

Upon writing percussion rolls or trills for other instruments, the measure with the rolls/trills becomes a mass of gray and nothing in the measure is visible. It prints out fine, turns into a PDF just fine, but on the Finale score itself, the measure is all gray. I can't adjust anything because nothing else is visible aside from the gray. Any ideas?

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Re: Gray Notes on Percussion Rolls and Instrumental Trills

Postby zuill » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:38 pm

Did you apply HP, or use the TGTools playback feature?

If so, these are hidden notes to produce the playback for the rolls and trills.

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Re: Gray Notes on Percussion Rolls and Instrumental Trills

Postby basieman » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:49 pm

Hello Zuill,

I used the number "8" while in the articulation mode to make the timpani rolls and used the Trill selection which is also in the articulation mode. It didn't show up this way at first. I used play back a couple of times and then it started to show up. Just noticed that when in playback mode, the gray goes away. Very odd.
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Re: Gray Notes on Percussion Rolls and Instrumental Trills

Postby motet » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:32 am

Sounds like Human Playback not cleaning up after itself.
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Re: Gray Notes on Percussion Rolls and Instrumental Trills

Postby zuill » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:09 am

MakeMusic needs to get Finale a litter box for Human Playback. This has never happened to me, by the way, but I have seen reports from others that this has happened. I'm just lucky, I guess.

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Re: Gray Notes on Percussion Rolls and Instrumental Trills

Postby Peter Thomsen » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:00 am

basieman wrote:… Upon writing percussion rolls or trills for other instruments, the measure with the rolls/trills becomes a mass of gray and nothing in the measure is visible. It prints out fine, turns into a PDF just fine, but on the Finale score itself, the measure is all gray. I can't adjust anything because nothing else is visible aside from the gray. Any ideas? …

View menu > Show > Hidden Notes and Rests (de-select this menu item)
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Re: Gray Notes on Percussion Rolls and Instrumental Trills

Postby zuill » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:46 pm

The issue for me is not whether one sees the notes, but the fact that they are there. Unless one chooses to "hard-wire" the playback data from HP, it shouldn't be rendering those notes.

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Re: Gray Notes on Percussion Rolls and Instrumental Trills

Postby N Grossingink » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:53 pm

Just thinking (uh-oh) -

If you open a saved file, play it back, and close it without saving, the ghost notes won't be there when you open the file again(?). Of course, if you want to make edits that are needed while listening to playback, that won't work.

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Re: Gray Notes on Percussion Rolls and Instrumental Trills

Postby basieman » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:01 pm

Greetings All Ye Who Sought To Help,

Go to "View - Show and uncheck "hidden notes and rests!" It worked. I really dislike having to ask for help (I do ask for directions) but the folks at Finale really came through!! They are spot on all of it!!

Thank you all again and thank you Finale for you help.

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