Bug in deleting notes in chord?

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Bug in deleting notes in chord?

Post by Blacklab88 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:15 pm

Normally, I can go to a chord in Simple Entry and delete individual notes in the chord. I have a treble clef chord that goes down to G below middle C, and Simple Entry eraser will NOT delete it. It can delete any of the other notes in the same chord. Is this a bug?
Also, is there a way to delete single notes in a chord in Speedy Entry? Thanks.
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Re: Bug in deleting notes in chord?

Post by Peter Thomsen » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:34 pm

If I understand you correctly, you are using the Simple Entry Tool’s sub-tool Eraser Tool to delete the note, right?

Since the note is so low, it may too far below the staff, so that the Eraser Tool actually affects the staff below.

Instead, select the note.
You can move the selection highlighting between the chord notes via the keyboard shortcuts CTRL-DownArrow and CTRL-UpArrow. (I am not sure about the correct modifier key. Is it CTRL?)
When the note is selected (highlighted), you can delete it by hitting the delete key (or is it the Backspace key?)
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Re: Bug in deleting notes in chord?

Post by David Ward » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:38 pm

Blacklab88 wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:15 pm
…is there a way to delete single notes in a chord in Speedy Entry? Thanks.
Yes.

I can't give exact directions for Windows, but on a Mac while in Speedy one would put the cursor on the note one wants to delete and then use the clear key from the numeric keypad, or on a MacBook (or other short keyboard) key Shift/Fn/Delete. I'm sure there's a Windows equivalent.
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Re: Bug in deleting notes in chord?

Post by Blacklab88 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:43 pm

Thanks, Peter and David. Got it!
Question: who, in their infinite wisdom, decides what is "too low" on the ledger lines? Pianists are accustomed to reading ledger lines, and switching clefs in a ledger line is sometimes pretty ugly. Maybe that's not the point, and has to do with spatial measurements?
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Re: Bug in deleting notes in chord?

Post by motet » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:47 pm

I wonder what the problem is. I can delete a G below the staff. Make sure you're in the right layer.
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Re: Bug in deleting notes in chord?

Post by Blacklab88 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:57 pm

Don't know. Yup, I was in the right layer. I have Finale 24....maybe a bug?
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Re: Bug in deleting notes in chord?

Post by N Grossingink » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:43 pm

motet wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:47 pm
I wonder what the problem is. I can delete a G below the staff. Make sure you're in the right layer.
It depends upon the distance between staves. If they are close, you end up getting into the "zone" of the stave below and the eraser has no effect.
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Re: Bug in deleting notes in chord?

Post by Anders Hedelin » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:15 pm

David Ward wrote: I can't give exact directions for Windows, but on a Mac while in Speedy one would put the cursor on the note one wants to delete and then use the clear key from the numeric keypad, or on a MacBook (or other short keyboard) key Shift/Fn/Delete. I'm sure there's a Windows equivalent.
The Windows way of doing it in Speedy Entry, if you would consider using that: Place the cursor on the note head and press backspace.
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Re: Bug in deleting notes in chord?

Post by Blacklab88 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:31 pm

N Grossingink wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:43 pm
motet wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:47 pm
I wonder what the problem is. I can delete a G below the staff. Make sure you're in the right layer.
It depends upon the distance between staves. If they are close, you end up getting into the "zone" of the stave below and the eraser has no effect.
Ah! So just move the problem staves farther apart. Thanks!
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