JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

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JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by fredvandoren » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:56 pm

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This morning I updated the OS to 10.15.4. When I opened Finale each JW plug in "bundle" was flagged and offered to the trash. That makes for a long opening sequence - and no plugins! What's up?

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Re: JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by fredvandoren » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:00 pm

Apparently the files cannot be validated: MacOS cannot verify that the files are free of malware. Yesterday they were.

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Re: JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by motet » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:55 pm

A false positive?

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Re: JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by michelp » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:48 pm

I found this on a Facebook Finale power users page :

from Greg Angel :

There is a way around this....... for now. Apple will be closing this loophole/grace period sometime, so avoid OS updates if you need JW or other unsigned PIs.
1. launch Finale
2. when you get the warning, open System Preferences/Security
3. Click 'Allow Anyway'
4. Then Click Cancel in the dialog asking you to move the PI to the trash
5. repeat steps 3 and 4 for all warnings
6. quit Finale and relaunch it
7. now you will see the dialog with the third option to Open the unsigned PIs.
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Post by fredvandoren » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:10 am

That worked. Ridiculous to go through it every time I open Finale, but it is a workaround. Thank you!

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Re: JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by peerlessnerd » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:49 pm

I trust Jari or somebody on the forum will let us know when the JW Plugins are running under the newest Catalina. Apple can be relentless in bombarding us with update notices.

What about TG Tools and Patterson, etc?

Giving Apple permission to update OS automatically is a poor choice for heavy Finale users. Usually Finale itself works, but 3rd-party plugins, drivers for elderly printers, and other things important to speedy workflow can take weeks or months. Sometimes they never arrive at all.
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Post by fredvandoren » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:06 pm

This is worse than I thought.

I followed the advice to open Security settings and click the CANCEl box, etc. Twenty or so apps later, Finale opened and functions normally. JWPlugins, however are no longer available from the menu.

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Re: JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by N Grossingink » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:53 am

michelp wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:48 pm
6. quit Finale and relaunch it
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Re: JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by fredvandoren » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:29 pm

Thanks everyone for your advice.

I have relaunched Finale many times. Doesn't help.
I still have to check other plugins.

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Re: JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by michelp » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:39 am

If the problem appeared with the 10.5.4 update, you could try to revert to MacOs 10.5.3, still available on the Apple website : https://support.apple.com/en_US/downloads
Get the combo update, it seems to be recommended to do a complete install.
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Re: JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by MikeHalloran » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:14 am

fredvandoren wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:10 am
That worked. Ridiculous to go through it every time I open Finale, but it is a workaround. Thank you!

Fred Van Doren
You should only have to go through this once per app after an OS update.
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Re: JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by MikeHalloran » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:18 am

michelp wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:39 am
If the problem appeared with the 10.5.4 update, you could try to revert to MacOs 10.5.3, still available on the Apple website : https://support.apple.com/en_US/downloads
Get the combo update, it seems to be recommended to do a complete install.
That won't work to install an earlier OS. The options are to Restore from a) Time Machine or other backup or b) APFS Snapshots if done within 24 hours.
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Re: JW Plugins disabled by OS10.15.4?

Post by MikeHalloran » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:26 am

michelp wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:48 pm
I found this on a Facebook Finale power users page :

from Greg Angel :

There is a way around this....... for now. Apple will be closing this loophole/grace period sometime, so avoid OS updates if you need JW or other unsigned PIs.
1. launch Finale
2. when you get the warning, open System Preferences/Security
3. Click 'Allow Anyway'
4. Then Click Cancel in the dialog asking you to move the PI to the trash
5. repeat steps 3 and 4 for all warnings
6. quit Finale and relaunch it
7. now you will see the dialog with the third option to Open the unsigned PIs.
This is wrong and that's why it keeps happening. You must click on the padlock icon first and enter your Admin passsword. If you allow the plug to access the proper folder, you won't get the dialog to move it to Trash.

Reinstalling the JW Plugins has worked for others.
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