Unwanted Trill in playback
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- Djard
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I wrote a trill then deleted it. But Finale decided to play back the trill in the next measure that has no such indication. Changing HP to another genre did not help, neither did clearing all the items in the measure as well as the preceding one.
Deleting the section then inserting measures copied from a healthy section of the score also did not work. However, if I cut out any measure before the problematic one, the issue is resolved. So it appears that Finale decided to assign a trill to the measure number.
I am unable to attach the document, since the problem is on page 16, making the file too large to upload; and deleting pages before the problematic measure solves the problem. Is there something in HP Preferences that I can change to get rid of the unwanted trill in playback?
Deleting the section then inserting measures copied from a healthy section of the score also did not work. However, if I cut out any measure before the problematic one, the issue is resolved. So it appears that Finale decided to assign a trill to the measure number.
I am unable to attach the document, since the problem is on page 16, making the file too large to upload; and deleting pages before the problematic measure solves the problem. Is there something in HP Preferences that I can change to get rid of the unwanted trill in playback?
- zuill
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Were playback notes entered into a hidden layer via one of the plugins? Also, could this file be affected by the bug that rears its ugly head when Defined Measure Numbers is selected in preferences. Without a file to examine, we really don't know what is happening.
Zuill
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
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- Djard
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No hidden layers, according to Speedy Entry; "Show active layer" is unchecked; and "Show hidden notes and rests" is enabled in View settings. I selected "Display actual measure numbers," but that made no difference in the playback.
The problematic measure (treble clef of piano) is silent if I delete the notes on beat 1 and 2. No trill is played if I enter a note on the 3rd beat of the waltz. I see nothing in Edit Frame
If I cut out any preceding measure in the score, the unwanted trill is applied to notation in the next measure: whatever measure ends up being number 64 gets the trill.
If I knew how to apply a trill to a specific measure, I could try reversing the step.
The problematic measure (treble clef of piano) is silent if I delete the notes on beat 1 and 2. No trill is played if I enter a note on the 3rd beat of the waltz. I see nothing in Edit Frame
If I cut out any preceding measure in the score, the unwanted trill is applied to notation in the next measure: whatever measure ends up being number 64 gets the trill.
If I knew how to apply a trill to a specific measure, I could try reversing the step.
- zuill
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If you could attach a file here with the errant measures, we could troubleshoot. We don't have enough information from descriptions only.
Zuill
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
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- Djard
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Thank you so much for your willingness to help, but the file size exceeds the upload limit (measure #64). If I delete the four pages before the problem, it gets moved four pages back.
I will try deleting all the music before the problematic measure as well all the other instruments to see if the issue is preserved in a smaller file. I'll try assigning six measures per staff.
I will try deleting all the music before the problematic measure as well all the other instruments to see if the issue is preserved in a smaller file. I'll try assigning six measures per staff.
- Djard
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Erasing the preceding notation and deleting the subsequent measures worked in reduced the document size. The unwanted trill appears in the last measure.
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- Unwanted Trill.mus
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- zuill
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Let's start by seeing how this file works.
Zuill
Zuill
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- Unwanted Trill Revised.mus
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Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
- zuill
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I selected All, Copied, then Pasted. I couldn't find anything at first, so I did a lot of poking around. The Copy/Paste was the only thing that worked. Somehow that cleared the problem. Magic!
Oh, I forgot that there was another procedure that also worked: I selected the Treble Staff measures and chose to Clear Selected Items. When only choosing Smart Shapes Assigned to Measures, that also cleared the trill.
Zuill
Oh, I forgot that there was another procedure that also worked: I selected the Treble Staff measures and chose to Clear Selected Items. When only choosing Smart Shapes Assigned to Measures, that also cleared the trill.
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
- Djard
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Thank you Zuill for your valuable time. I had tried clearing Smart Shapes assigned to the measure, but that option still does not work for me. Creating a new (empty) document then copying and pasting in the score works, albeit I then must edit many of the guitar chord diagrams that get mis-portrayed and duplicated. I find that the copy & paste into a new document method is a universal fix as it solves many other issues: it is my last resort, being so time consuming. I wonder why the latter works. Is it because a new format is applied...library file altered...some error not copied?
- zuill
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In the file you posted, you can just select the top staff, do ctrl-c then ctrl-v. That should leave everything else alone, and stop the trill.
Zuill
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
- Djard
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That option also worked! I did not realize that the entire piano part had to be selected, from the beginning to end: I was selecting only the measures on the page with the problematic measure.
The trill is gone...the trill is gone; I'm trilled that the doggone trill is gone. La-la-la.
Thanks
The trill is gone...the trill is gone; I'm trilled that the doggone trill is gone. La-la-la.
Thanks